anti nuclear greens make me very upset
Like.
You dont want coal, ok good im with you.
You dont want pipelines, also good im there.
And you also dont want nuclear? Like if you dont want nuclear, your getting a pipeline thats just how it works.
Your solar farm needs a gas peaker plant and that means a pipeline.
Your own activism ensures the pipeline. Stop that.
@Laurelai
I have a much more nuanced position than either you or the antinuclear greens take.
i see it as useful in a transitory phase but I do not neglect acknowledging the long term risks.
it's not something we will need forever.
@Laurelai frankly energy production must be decentralized.
@CapnMurphy I mean if you want to waste resources. Duplicating efforts and such. Decentralized electricity is wasteful.
@Laurelai if you want a truly non-hierarchical Society you cannot have centralized energy because energy is political power just like controlling the food chain that the water is political power.
@Laurelai who would own and control a centralized power grid?
a workers state?
private moneyed interests?
do you even care?
@CapnMurphy I do care. You don't want some dictatorial force controlling it. However local power cooperatives federated across the area could control it via a democratic process. The plant isnt everything. Things like transformers and power lines still need to happen.
@Laurelai
Could control a single power source? perhaps.
but it would be quite tempting for one of them to take it over and make the others vassal States.
@CapnMurphy I do, but i find it largely unfounded. Infrastructure tends to empower people to be able to take part in the political process. This is why dictators dont build roads.
@CapnMurphy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs