~ HOW TO INTERACT WITH A TOOT THAT HASN'T REACHED YOUR INSTANCE YET ~
(because it's a question I see a lot from new users)
1) Right-click on the timestamp to copy the toot's URL or open it in a new tab.
2) Paste the URL of the toot into the search bar in the Mastodon web UI, then press enter.
3) The toot will appear in the search results and you can boost or reply from there.
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https://cybre.space/media/29vaM-LP-SXYhMScsm8 https://cybre.space/media/EtT1oAcS3hSTCUESDt4 https://cybre.space/media/1tbmoC1oGW0w1xyP6Y4
@cassolotl Doesnt work for me
@Laurelai Ack! That sucks. At which stage does it all go wrong?
@cassolotl When i put the url into the search the post doesnt come up
@Laurelai Can you send me an example of a URL that doesn't work when you search it?
@cassolotl https://kitty.town/@GinnyMcQueen/99026494992410175 this one, its followers only and i follow her ergo it should show up
@Laurelai Bea ( @bea ) tells me that followers-only toots are not searchable even if you follow the person, and that is intended and expected behaviour: https://glitch.social/@bea/99066331292790616
@cassolotl @bea So what your telling me is that i cannot see a followers only post when i am a follower when it is linked to me in any way at all ever and this is by design. Wonderful.
@Laurelai @cassolotl its KINDA by design
i don't think there's a way to make it happen but only for followers
the code prevents pulling all direct and followers-only toots through the search box and since you are asking the remote instance for the toot, it actually has no idea who you are
it only knows your instance is asking for something private, and disallows it
@bea @cassolotl The software should know im allowed to see it and show it to me, im just saying.
@Laurelai @cassolotl i agree i just don't know if it's possible to do securely and kinda suspect it isnt :c
@bea @Laurelai @cassolotl there certainly is the risk of a malicious instance pretending to be a follower to read a followers only post
@bea @packetcharmer @Laurelai @cassolotl the local instance could try querying or deducing its unique id, and then search in its own local database
cant find a solution that isn't a terrible hack right now but it's surely doable somehow
@CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @Laurelai @cassolotl yes, we can check locally but the thread was originally about pulling statuses from remote instances...
@bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl Like is it just not possible to have two instances talk to each other and be like "yes person x follows person y, show post"
@Laurelai @bea @packetcharmer @cassolotl having only access to posts you have been sent (mostly means "since you've been following") is also a good security feature
@CobaltVelvet @bea @packetcharmer @cassolotl Seems like security through obscurity i mean i could just take hours to scroll through the person in questions timeline for the post, but i dont want to do that. All im asking for is a faster way to see what im theoretically already allowed to see.
@Laurelai @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl if your instance does not have the toot you wanted to search you also would not see it if you scrolled back their feed
@bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl So followers only posts are just for your followers on that local instance???
@Laurelai @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl no, they are federated but if someone makes follower only posts before anyone on your instance is following them your instance won't have a copy
@bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl So you dont get old follower only toots despite following them??
@Laurelai @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl correct. i think thats how you ended up in this situation in the first place
@bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl Thats a silly feature. Follower only should mean follower only no matter when you became a follower. If you want to limit who follows you theres already a way to do that.
@bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl Well then it should do a check every few days and see if there are new followers and send the posts. Clearly.
@Laurelai @bea @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl
doing so is not really feasible
@Laurelai @bea @packetcharmer @cassolotl it's can be a sensible security feature and can be both great and awful for people
i think the greatest solution would be a new visibility level between unlisted and followers-only that lets you choose whether or not future followers can see it
if if it's too crowded, in the account options
@CobaltVelvet @bea @packetcharmer @cassolotl Or at least a button on a follower only post that says "push to new followers" or something.
@Laurelai @CobaltVelvet @packetcharmer @cassolotl it's not a feature
its a consequence of not sending follower only posts to instances where nobody is following that user