Yall

Its not gun control, its not mental health.

its toxic masculinity.

The polarizing argument over one or the other is a distraction from looking at the root cause.

Domestic violence is the most common thread in mass violence.

Arguing over banning guns or locking mentally ill people away is just a damn distraction.

Pull your heads out of your ass and address the root issue.

Toxic masculinity.

@Laurelai You’re not wrong, but I don’t think there’s less toxic masculinity or domestic violence in countries that have gun control and fewer mass shootings.

@ghost_bird Yes but they have *other* kinds of mass violence because the root issue wasnt solved, so the violence takes different forms.

@Laurelai Agreed. Gun control is just a way to put a patch on the problem by creating barrier to mass violence and making the violence itself less lethal. But it’s an effective patch, and gun culture is itself a reservoir of toxic masculinity.

@ghost_bird Tell that to the marginalized people arming up in response to nazi violence. No, it just mutates the shape of the violence. In the Uk they still have mass violence, just not mass shootings. Why not address the root cause and eliminate the violence altogether? Sounds like the better solution instead of just a haphazard patch.

@Laurelai Tell them that if the Nazis didn’t have guns they’d be safer? Though, again, I agree racist police aren’t going to take the Nazis guns away unless they’re forced to.
More importantly, though, I’m not sure why this is one thing or another? Politicians aren’t going to legislate away toxic masculinity but they could pass gun laws.

@ghost_bird Police wont take nazi guns away because the police tend to also be nazis. And nazis wont obey gun control laws. They wont. They are nazis. They dont play by rules. They laugh in your face while you disarm yourself then kill you in your sleep.

@Laurelai I’m in the UK, so this is all pretty abstract to me - our Nazis are more likely to beat people to death or (occasionally) blow them up. But gun control here has been a kind of virtuous circle - mass shootings created revulsion for gun violence, which drove gun control laws, which made gun violence less frequent and thus more shocking and so on. But we started from a position of fewer guns in the first place.

@ghost_bird You just kinda proved my point. nazis are killing people with fists and bombs instead of guns. Nazis are still killing people. The violence just mutated. It didnt go away. And arent bombs more deadly than a gun???

@Laurelai They’re killing fewer people because their weapons aren’t as efficient. Bombs seem like an exception, but home-made bombs are hard to make, easy to detect, and prone to failure - which is why they’re not that common in the States, either.
And we do have much less mass violence here, while having no less toxic masculinity.